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“Today, the UN is largely a toothless body…” Not quite, perhaps. It appears that the UN's use as a mechanism to preserve certain unethical objectives has also been cited. It has been pointed out that at least on two separate occasions, UN Security Council votes were used to condemn the use of certain chemical weapons. That sounds virtuous on the surface, but in both instances, Dupont was the patent holder of the chemicals — which had been used by certain jihadist groups in Middle Eastern countries as part of campaigns to bring down governments — and the vote to ban the use of such chemicals came just after the patents expired.

The fact alone that the UN headquarters in New York was erected on land owned by the Rockefellers doesn’t bode well. Then there’s a quip by late Robert David Steele who once pointed out that “a third of the UN are spies, a third corrupt or nepotistic, and the other third are genuinely good but naive people holding up the other two-thirds.” Lastly, a few years ago Putin publicly suggested that the UN still had some potential benefit in a continued existence, but only if it could succeed in cleaning up its house. Conditional olive branch much?

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Matthew, I, too, harbor great distrust, in fact, contempt for the Council on Foreign Relations. And often cite it's "Foreign Affairs" publication to expose them in their own words. They reveal a lot, boastfully, to those who bother to read. Much as Mein Kampf wasn't a secret journal Hitler kept for close allies. I've even read and shared their panels disclosing how they use "Nudge" to manipulate populations, while stating on the record that there's much more to what they do that they can't state on the record, reminding participants to keep those discussions behind closed doors:

https://www.cfr.org/event/behavioral-insights-policymaking

They even told us before 2020 that they were devising bioweapon research in ways to evade public opposition from short-sighted policymakers and ignorant civilians who didn't know it was for their own good:

https://www.cfr.org/event/biotechnology-potential-and-perils-innovation

And they were so bold as to tell us we needed to follow China's model for pandemic public policy in March, 2020:

https://web.archive.org/web/20200328050913/https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/china/2020-03-27/past-pandemics-exposed-chinas-weaknesses

But what I'm a bit confused about given my understanding of CFR that you share similar sentiments of is this piece in Foreign Affaris published in January, 1941:

Science in the Totalitarian State

https://web.archive.org/web/20181125112623/https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/1941-01-01/science-totalitarian-state

Stating, “If our society wants science it must choose between totalitarianism and democracy. There can be no compromise.” In a long piece about Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini and the hazards of "following the science" to free people.

I encourage you, readers to read the 1941 piece in its entirety, very informative. I always encourage readers to meet a piece on their own terms as I do and form their own understanding of what stands out to them. And I provide selected excerpts on my Stack that I considered most illuminating, prescient to compare notes or for those with limited bandwidth:

https://freedomfox.substack.com/p/old-journal-inside-a-fox-den-thats

Given what I believe to be our shared understanding of what and who CFR is, I'd truly appreciate your insights in helping me evaluate and reconcile the 1941 FA piece with the understanding of their agenda today, and historically. Thank you.

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