University of Alberta Assistant Professor Dougal MacDonald raised hell on November 20, 2019 by writing in a personal Facebook post that the 1932-33 genocide of Ukrainians referred to as Holodomor was a “myth fabricated by Hitlerites”.
The devastating famine also affected Russia and that information along with the well known natural conditions that precipitated the terrible famine were not reported. I am extremely proud of Mathew and Cynthia as an expat Canadian for their insightful and well researched work that continues to inform and educate me! Bravo!!!!
Thank you for telling some truths about the Nazi collaborators in Ukraine. Another fact is that those Nazis have been trying to exterminate the Russian-speaking Ukrainians in eastern Ukraine
since 2014 when a US-CIA coup replaced pro-Russia Viktor Yanukovych with one of their anti-Russian stooges.
Thank you for telling some truths about the Nazi collaborators in Ukraine. Another fact is that those Nazis have been trying to exterminate the Russian-speaking Ukrainians in eastern Ukraine
since 2014 when a US-CIA coup replaced pro-Russia Viktor Yanukovych with one of their anti-Russian stooges.
Excellent piece--thank you! Note standing to the left and behind Chrystia (WEF) Freeland is our ridiculous Toronto Mayor (blue mask-- he LOVES masks) John Tory -- holding a flag. Another 67 (looks 75 plus) yr old politician who has never done anything but screw up or fail in any job his silver spoon background would hand him.
Thank you for telling some truths about the Nazi collaborators in Ukraine. Another fact is that those Nazis have been trying to exterminate the Russian-speaking Ukrainians in eastern Ukraine.
Thank you for telling some truths about the Nazi collaborators in Ukraine. Another fact is that those Nazis have been trying to exterminate the Russian-speaking Ukrainians in eastern Ukraine.
Having read the article linked above, it is easy to note that it is a work of analysis, aka propaganda, itself. If you read it carefully you will note that it was Stalin’s choice to rapidly industrialize, and that it was this choice, not the west, that forced the famine. History is above all a matter of the interpretation of available facts, so my remark about propaganda is meant to be facetious. Historians would likely agree that Stalin made a conscious decision to privilege his industrial program over the lives of millions. You may think that was the correct judgment. I don’t.
Maybe he could have industrialized if the west hadn't accepted only wheat as payment? One wonders if Barbarossa wouldn't have been the end of the USSR without Stalin's savage drive to industrialize. I don't think I could have made such a decision, but in any case counter narratives are essential to provide context, sussing them out is ones own task.
As a free speech advocate, I welcome any evidence the professor might put forth that the Ukraine famine of the 30s was a myth. But this article displays the opposite of scholarship. Asserting as evidence of a “myth” that the two writers had friends in high places is sophomoric. It’s the old guilt by association. He knew those guys so he must have shared their thoughts and aims - that just doesn’t cut it as evidence. In fact neither writer was celebrated for that reporting. The opposite was the case, it was very unpopular news, particularly since the US wanted to recognize- and did, in 1933- the USSR. I don’t know the content of the professor’s actual argument, but if it weak, let it be challenged by a better one. This is how it’s done during periods of civilization. Shouting down those you disagree with a child’s tantrum.
You do not seem to comprehend how the oligarchy's propaganda operations work from the highest echelons of sculpting historical narratives on a multigenerational level. There is low level propaganda for immediate effects of course as we see with each day's reporting of the events in Ukraine. However when it comes to the highest echelons of the Round Table or Chatham House as we are discussing in the text above, there is a much higher strategic consideration of multi-generational stories which may take a very long time to become embedded into the zeitgeist. One quick example of that for you to consider in our modern time is the team of historians deployed by Chatham House to the USA weeks after the January 6, 2021 events unfolded in order to shape the historical records about the attempted insurrection on the Capitol. Today, that narrative is still quite a difficult sell for even most liberals, but they are creating authoritative academic resources that WILL be referenced back upon by countless hack historians millions and millions of times in the future while those honest researchers who have exposed the fraud of January 6's official story will be banned, burned, mocked etc. This is what was done with the Holodomor story, and I highly recommend you look at the links in my text to this and also the referenced Oriental Review link above to broaden your horizons a bit: Starikov: Episode 10. Gold Blockade Who Organised the Famine in the USSR in 1932-1933? – https://orientalreview.org/2012/12/17/episodes-10-who-organised-famine-in-the-ussr-in-1932-1933/
I will look at your link, as I am interested in evidence. I also agree that there are high level efforts to shape a preferred narrative. There are also facts on the ground. Like millions of dead from famine. Sorry but I still believe that happened, narrative or no.
You ignore the Actual guilt by association and engage in Second Grader logic: Ukraine was part of the USSR therefore the famine was caused by Stalin and the Communists of the USSR.
The devastating famine also affected Russia and that information along with the well known natural conditions that precipitated the terrible famine were not reported. I am extremely proud of Mathew and Cynthia as an expat Canadian for their insightful and well researched work that continues to inform and educate me! Bravo!!!!
Starikov: Episode 10. Gold Blockade Who Organised the Famine in the USSR in 1932-1933? – https://orientalreview.org/2012/12/17/episodes-10-who-organised-famine-in-the-ussr-in-1932-1933/
Thank you for telling some truths about the Nazi collaborators in Ukraine. Another fact is that those Nazis have been trying to exterminate the Russian-speaking Ukrainians in eastern Ukraine
since 2014 when a US-CIA coup replaced pro-Russia Viktor Yanukovych with one of their anti-Russian stooges.
Thank you for telling some truths about the Nazi collaborators in Ukraine. Another fact is that those Nazis have been trying to exterminate the Russian-speaking Ukrainians in eastern Ukraine
since 2014 when a US-CIA coup replaced pro-Russia Viktor Yanukovych with one of their anti-Russian stooges.
Powerful I enjoy the counter narrative as it's always closer to the truth.
About the role of Ukrainian fascism in Canada
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/05/16/vxen-m16.html
Excellent piece--thank you! Note standing to the left and behind Chrystia (WEF) Freeland is our ridiculous Toronto Mayor (blue mask-- he LOVES masks) John Tory -- holding a flag. Another 67 (looks 75 plus) yr old politician who has never done anything but screw up or fail in any job his silver spoon background would hand him.
Thank you for telling some truths about the Nazi collaborators in Ukraine. Another fact is that those Nazis have been trying to exterminate the Russian-speaking Ukrainians in eastern Ukraine.
Thank you for telling some truths about the Nazi collaborators in Ukraine. Another fact is that those Nazis have been trying to exterminate the Russian-speaking Ukrainians in eastern Ukraine.
Having read the article linked above, it is easy to note that it is a work of analysis, aka propaganda, itself. If you read it carefully you will note that it was Stalin’s choice to rapidly industrialize, and that it was this choice, not the west, that forced the famine. History is above all a matter of the interpretation of available facts, so my remark about propaganda is meant to be facetious. Historians would likely agree that Stalin made a conscious decision to privilege his industrial program over the lives of millions. You may think that was the correct judgment. I don’t.
Maybe he could have industrialized if the west hadn't accepted only wheat as payment? One wonders if Barbarossa wouldn't have been the end of the USSR without Stalin's savage drive to industrialize. I don't think I could have made such a decision, but in any case counter narratives are essential to provide context, sussing them out is ones own task.
As a free speech advocate, I welcome any evidence the professor might put forth that the Ukraine famine of the 30s was a myth. But this article displays the opposite of scholarship. Asserting as evidence of a “myth” that the two writers had friends in high places is sophomoric. It’s the old guilt by association. He knew those guys so he must have shared their thoughts and aims - that just doesn’t cut it as evidence. In fact neither writer was celebrated for that reporting. The opposite was the case, it was very unpopular news, particularly since the US wanted to recognize- and did, in 1933- the USSR. I don’t know the content of the professor’s actual argument, but if it weak, let it be challenged by a better one. This is how it’s done during periods of civilization. Shouting down those you disagree with a child’s tantrum.
You do not seem to comprehend how the oligarchy's propaganda operations work from the highest echelons of sculpting historical narratives on a multigenerational level. There is low level propaganda for immediate effects of course as we see with each day's reporting of the events in Ukraine. However when it comes to the highest echelons of the Round Table or Chatham House as we are discussing in the text above, there is a much higher strategic consideration of multi-generational stories which may take a very long time to become embedded into the zeitgeist. One quick example of that for you to consider in our modern time is the team of historians deployed by Chatham House to the USA weeks after the January 6, 2021 events unfolded in order to shape the historical records about the attempted insurrection on the Capitol. Today, that narrative is still quite a difficult sell for even most liberals, but they are creating authoritative academic resources that WILL be referenced back upon by countless hack historians millions and millions of times in the future while those honest researchers who have exposed the fraud of January 6's official story will be banned, burned, mocked etc. This is what was done with the Holodomor story, and I highly recommend you look at the links in my text to this and also the referenced Oriental Review link above to broaden your horizons a bit: Starikov: Episode 10. Gold Blockade Who Organised the Famine in the USSR in 1932-1933? – https://orientalreview.org/2012/12/17/episodes-10-who-organised-famine-in-the-ussr-in-1932-1933/
I will look at your link, as I am interested in evidence. I also agree that there are high level efforts to shape a preferred narrative. There are also facts on the ground. Like millions of dead from famine. Sorry but I still believe that happened, narrative or no.
You ignore the Actual guilt by association and engage in Second Grader logic: Ukraine was part of the USSR therefore the famine was caused by Stalin and the Communists of the USSR.
Well it probably was. Who else? Famine fairies?
Read the article before you regurgitate your imprinted state propaganda. When your mouth is open, you ain't learning nuthin'
Likewise, wise ass
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